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President Trump confers with White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows at the White House on Sept. 1. Photo: Win McNamee/Getty Images

White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows told Fox News Wednesday he wouldn't have recommended that Bob Woodward gain the extensive White House access the journalist did for his interviews with President Trump.

Why it matters: Trump has faced criticism following leaks of Woodward's new book "Rage," particularly for his comments during on-the-record interviews earlier this year that his approach to the coronavirus pandemic was to "play it down" to avoid a panic — something Meadows used in defense of the president during his interview.

What they're saying: Asked by Fox News host Martha MacCallum if Trump's coronavirus comments were "problematic for the president," Meadows replied that "any great leader" will "take information that they have" and vet it with advisers, in this case "both doctors and those within the White House to actually make sure that we made prudent decisions." 

  • "[Y]ou don't want to ... create panic. But at the same time, it was an all hands on deck. I can tell you, not only did that happen in January and February, but when I came on board in March, it was around-the-clock, vigilant effort to make sure that this president did everything he could to address it," he said.
  • Meadows said he wasn't surprised to learn that Woodward and Trump had spoken on the phone at great lengths because it's "typical" of the president to do so as he "believes that he has nothing to hide" and is "willing to talk to anybody about any subject no matter how difficult."
  • But he added: "[Woodward's] access to the White House is probably something that I would not have recommended had I been in the chief of staff role very early on."

Of note: Trump stood by his downplaying of the virus' threat during an interview with Fox News' Sean Hannity broadcast later Wednesday, saying he wanted to "show a calmness."

  • The president said he "almost definitely won't read" Woodward's book "because I don’t have time to read it," noting it "sounds like it's not going to be good."
  • He claimed the legendary journalist "does hit jobs with everybody," including his predecessor, former President Obama. "So, I figured, you know let's just give it a little shot. I'll speak to him, wasn't a big deal," Trump added.
  • But the president's former personal attorney Michael Cohen said while plugging his own tell-all Trump book during an appearance on CNN Wednesday that "it's not going to go well" for whomever set up the Woodward interview.

Go deeper: Trump hit with devastating book barrage

Go deeper

Biden's dull-by-design plan

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The most remarkable part of President-elect Biden’s campaign and early picks for positions of true power is the unremarkable — and predictable — nature of his big moves. 

Why it matters: Biden is obsessed with bringing stability and conventional sanity back to governance. "He is approaching this — in part — like an experienced mechanic intent on repairing something that's been badly broken," said one source familiar with the president-elect's thinking.

Scoop: Blackstone CEO Stephen Schwarzman says Trump lost

Trump with Schwarzman in 2017. Photo: Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images

It's over. That's what Blackstone chairman, CEO and co-founder Steve Schwarzman — one of President Trump's most loyal allies — and other top Republicans are signaling to the defeated president, 16 days after Joe Biden clinched the win.

Why it matters: It’s all theatrics now. Even if Trump doesn't move on fast, you can. It is safe to ignore the fearful Republicans who insist the process is legit and plausible, because they tell us privately it is not. 

Scoop: Trump tells confidants he plans to pardon Michael Flynn

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President Trump has told confidants he plans to pardon his former national security adviser Michael Flynn, who pleaded guilty in December 2017 to lying to the FBI about his Russian contacts, two sources with direct knowledge of the discussions tell Axios.

Behind the scenes: Sources with direct knowledge of the discussions said Flynn will be part of a series of pardons that Trump issues between now and when he leaves office.