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Axios' Kim Hart kicks off the discussion. Photo: Lawrence Jackson for Axios

Axios' Kim Hart hosted a conversation on the future of retail, discussing the innovation and security threats transforming the industry. She sat down with 25 topic-matter experts to dig into the trends shaping how we buy things and how these trends will impact consumers, businesses, and workers.

Why it mattered: Not only are we all consumers, but retail is also the largest single source of American jobs — meaning that changes in this industry impact the livelihoods of many.

Innovating retail

Online shopping disrupted the retail industry by giving consumers an almost frictionless experience — enabling them to get what they want, when they want it, at the price they want to pay for it. Coined "the Amazon Effect", this trend worried traditional retailers. The round-table discussed the technology and innovation that, they argue, is fueling a new, experiential version of brick-and-mortar, by giving consumers something that they can't get online.

National Retail Federation Vice President Paul Martino gives his perspective. Photo: Lawrence Jackson for Axios
  • "Price won't make the difference [for brick-and-mortar]. It will be the experience," said Samsung's John Godfrey, acknowledging that consumers can always find an equivalent, if not better, price online than in-store.
  • "In terms of the experience, we don’t see the death of retail. We see a transformation. With augmented reality for example, you’ll be able to put on goggles and see how furniture will look in your home, and how paint will look on your walls," said the National Retail Federation's Paul Martino.
  • "Retailers have to use technology to align their interests with customers’ interests, so they always want to come back," Martino later added.
Securing Retail

As technology and data enable innovation in the retail industry, they also make consumers increasingly vulnerable to cyber threats. This round-table discussed how these threats have the potential to do more damage than most realize, and what can be done to prevent an extremely damaging event.

Diana Burley, Executive Director of GW's Institute for Information Infrastructure Protection, explains the security threats consumers face. Photo: Lawerence Jackson for Axios
  • The consumer-data relationship: "Consumers have a weird paradoxical sense about data ... They’re confused by it and worried about it, but they don’t seem to be acting on these fears ... Data spills haven’t actually affected the way people are using the internet and e-commerce," said the Pew Research's Center Lee Rainie.
  • What will change the relationship: "We don’t want a catastrophic event that will harm all these consumers, but until we have that type of event — when harm is done to people en masse — it’s going to be very hard to convince manufacturers and consumers that [protecting data] is a serious issue," said security researcher Diana Burley, who is the Executive Director of GW's Institute for Information Infrastructure Protection.
Senior Policy Advisor Anna Hevia explains the benefits of consumer education. Photo: Lawrence Jackson for Axios

What's next:

  • "The future of cybersecurity is going to fall on businesses. Consumers aren’t going to blame themselves [for data breaches]," said the Hudson Institute's Arthur Herman.
  • "I think one of the coolest tech-neutral things is consumer education so folks know what they’re getting into ... We shouldn’t have to set up this false dichotomy of 'participate and lose all your data' or 'don’t participate at all and keep your data,' said Anna Hevia, the Senior Policy Advisor for Rep. Tony Cárdenas (D-CA).
Consumers have many retail choices, our guests had many topping choices. Photo: Lawrence Jackson for Axios

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Chinese retail is winning the future

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Biden adviser Cedric Richmond sees first-term progress on reparations

Illustration: "Axios on HBO"

White House senior adviser Cedric Richmond told "Axios on HBO" that it's "doable" for President Biden to make first-term progress on breaking down barriers for people of color, while Congress studies reparations for slavery.

Why it matters: Biden said on the campaign trail that he supports creation of a commission to study and develop proposals for reparations — direct payments for African-Americans.

Cyber CEO: Next war will hit regular Americans online

Any future real-world conflict between the United States and an adversary like China or Russia will have direct impacts on regular Americans because of the risk of cyber attack, Kevin Mandia, CEO of cybersecurity company FireEye, tells "Axios on HBO."

What they're saying: "The next conflict where the gloves come off in cyber, the American citizen will be dragged into it, whether they want to be or not. Period."

Cedric Richmond: We won't wait on GOP for "insufficient" stimulus

Top Biden adviser Cedric Richmond told "Axios on HBO" the White House believes it has bipartisan support for a stimulus bill outside the Beltway.

  • "If our choice is to wait and go bipartisan with an insufficient package, we are not going to do that."

The big picture: The bill will likely undergo an overhaul in the Senate after House Democrats narrowly passed a stimulus bill this weekend, reports Axios' Kadia Goba.