Axios

Dan talks about D.C.'s growing antipathy toward big tech with Dean Garfield, who is stepping down as CEO of the IT Industry Council in order to lead global policy for Netflix. How did we get here, and what comes next?

Dan and Axios' Jonathan Swan talk on Day 26 of the government shutdown, with a focus on what's really going on in the White House.

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