Jul 24, 2025 - Politics & Policy
Mike Johnson on the Epstein case: "It's not a hoax"
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House Speaker Mike Johnson at the U.S. Capitol in June. Photo: Tasos Katopodis/Getty Images
House Speaker Mike Johnson said Thursday he wants "full transparency" in the Jeffrey Epstein files and the case is "not a hoax."
Why it matters: Johnson's comments to CBS News on the late convicted child sex offender's case are in notable contrast to President Trump's position on the matter.
- The president has repeatedly described the case as a "hoax," as pressure builds on his administration to release more files after it concluded there's no evidence of an Epstein "client list" nor that the disgraced financier's 2019 death in a New York prison cell was anything other than suicide.
Driving the news: "It's not a hoax. Of course not," Johnson said after CBS' Major Garrett asked him to clarify the matter.
- "There are real victims here," said Johnson, noting the issue was a delicate one.
- "I tried to explain in my press conference this week, man, we want full disclosure. If I had these things in my possession, I would have put them out a long time ago, but I would also have been very careful to protect the innocent," he added.
State of play: Johnson last week joined the chorus of Trump-friendly voices urging the administration to release the Epstein files.
- The speaker has also faced scrutiny after the House left a day early for a five-week summer recess after tensions erupted over efforts to force the release of the files.
- Just before the recess, a Republican-led House subcommittee on Wednesday passed a Democrat's motion to subpoena the DOJ's documents on Epstein.
- "We want full transparency," Johnson said on CBS' "The Takeout with Major Garrett."
- "We want everybody who is involved in any way with the Epstein evils — let's call it what it was — to be brought to justice as quickly as possible. We want the full weight of the law on their heads."
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