"I'm concerned": Dean Phillips refuses to rule out Biden primary challenge

• "I think there are people who are more proximate, better prepared to campaign with national organizations, national name recognition, which I do not possess," he said.
• "I'm concerned that there is no alternative," he said.

The big picture: Phillips, a three-term congressman, has been a vocal supporter of another Democratic candidate jumping in the presidential race to challenge Biden, and he's urged Biden to "pass the torch" to another candidate.

• Phillips has previously told Axios that he's mulling launching his own intra-party bid if nobody challenges Biden.
• He said last month that he wants Biden to "invite people to the primary stage" to promote competition.

What to watch: "I'm concerned that something could happen between now and next November that would make the Democratic Convention in Chicago an unmitigated disaster," Phillips told Schmidt.

• "And for a party that is acting as the adults in the room, thank goodness, I'm concerned that we are not as it relates to our electoral strategy. So I'm considering it."
• "I do still think there's some time for somebody to enter, I'm still encouraging others who I think are better prepared right now to run a great campaign."

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