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Roblox CEO David Baszucki told "Axios on HBO" that if Apple and Google cut their app store commissions, his company could send more money to developers, which it would like to do.

Why it matters: App store commissions have become a lightning rod for conflict between the mobile giants and developers. Epic Games, the creator of Fortnite, has sued both companies seeking to be able to use its own in-app payment system on their mobile platforms.

Roblox has great partnerships with companies like Apple, Google and Microsoft, Baszucki said, but if the dominant app stores took less in fees, Roblox could pass "the majority of that" money back to developers.

  • "I think it's fair to say we haven't filed a lawsuit," Baszucki said, as part of a wide-ranging interview for "Axios on HBO."
  • "And I think it's fair to say we would like to give more money back to the creators. Those two things are for sure, right?"

By the numbers: Of the revenue it earns from Robux, the virtual currency used in Roblox's environment, Roblox currently shares about a quarter with content creators, gives another quarter to platforms like Apple and Google and keeps a quarter as its own take, with the remainder allocated to the costs of running the Roblox platform.

Between the lines: Roblox has remained quiet during the Apple-Epic battle even as its name came up during the recent trial.

Yes, but: Roblox's actions spoke loudly despite its silence.

  • At one point in the trial, an Apple witness was questioned about whether Roblox's operation constituted a game store of the sort that Microsoft and others were prohibited from operating on iOS. Apple's witness described it more as a collection of experiences.
  • Within days, Roblox had changed the wording throughout its Web site, replacing the term games with experiences.

Baszucki wouldn't comment directly on the abrupt change to the website, but said he liked how the company was described at trial.

  • "We internally call it a metaverse app as opposed to a game store or streaming game store. And we think these are very different things."

The big picture: The metaverse is where Roblox, like Epic, sees its future, with Baszucki saying he sees opportunities in education and even for the workplace in Roblox's future.

  • Roblox isn't alone. In addition to Fortnite and Microsoft's Minecraft, Facebook said Friday it was buying Unit 2 Games, the studio behind Crayta —a Roblox like platform, which Facebook plans to integrate it into its own gaming effort.

Editor's note: This story has been corrected and updated to clarify that Roblox has not directly called on Apple and Google to lower their app store commissions.

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Why it matters: Epic's plan, announced tonight via a Tweet, would allow it to achieve one of its key goals in its ongoing fight with Apple, at least in one country.

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Why it matters: While McCarthy has worked carefully to build trust among the conservatives who tanked his chances at clinching the speakership in 2015, they're still circling ahead of the next Speaker vote in January 2023.

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Congressional leaders have been pushing off vital action for months — and a lot of it will catch up with them in December, which begins Wednesday.

Driving the news: Funding for the federal government is set to expire at midnight on Friday. There are also consequential deadlines related to the debt limit, President Biden's agenda and annual actions like voting on the National Defense Authorization Act.