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Hillary Clinton tells Kara Swisher for her New York Times Opinion podcast, "Sway," that most Republicans "have been cowards, spineless enablers" of President Trump.

  • "Most Republicans are going to want to close the page," Clinton says. "They want to see him gone as much as we do, but they can't say it publicly."

Clinton also said she thinks a female president would have handled the pandemic better.

  • Swisher: "You noted that a lot of countries that did best in the pandemic were led by women. ... Do you think a woman president in the United States would handle the pandemic better?"
  • Clinton: "I have no doubt, especially if it were me. I have no doubt. I mean, I was born for that."

Swisher asked, "Would you say 'lock him up?'"

  • Clinton: "No, I would never say that. ... I believe in the rule of law, unlike some of these people."

Clinton said she "can't entertain the idea of him winning. ... It would cause cognitive dissonance of a grave degree."

  • "[I]t makes me literally sick to my stomach to think that we'd have four more years of this abuse and destruction of our institutions. And damaging of our norms and our values. And lessening of our leadership. And the list goes on.

Clinton added, "I think I live rent-free in his head."

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Dec 11, 2020 - Health

Fauci says he will receive coronavirus vaccine in public

Anthony Fauci speaking in the White House in November. Photo: Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post via Getty Images

Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told the New York Times on Friday that he plans to be vaccinated for the coronavirus in public as soon as a vaccine becomes available to him.

Why it matters: Fauci is one of many governmental officials who have said they expect to be inoculated in public to help build confidence in vaccine, including former Presidents Barack Obama, George W. Bush and Bill Clinton.

Go deeper: Americans increasingly say they would get vaccinated for COVID-19

Oath Keepers leader denied bail on Capitol riot sedition charge

Oath Keepers co-founder Elmer Stewart Rhodes. Photo: Susan Walsh/AP

A federal judge ordered Oath Keepers leader Stewart Rhodes to remain jailed Wednesday until trial on charges stemming from the Capitol riot.

U.S. Magistrate Judge Kimberly Priest Johnson e in the t figure charged in the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection had access to weapons and his alleged "continued advocacy for violence against the federal government" gave credence to prosecutors' view that, if released, Rhodes could endanger others.

GOP to use Supreme Court fight to target vulnerable Dems

Illustration: Rebecca Zisser/Axios

Conservatives know they're unlikely to stop President Biden from filling a Supreme Court vacancy, but they plan to target Senate Democrats who face competitive re-election fights and are all but certain to vote for the successor to Justice Stephen Breyer.

Between the lines: The general strategy will be to tie those Democrats to positions seen as political liabilities in states like Arizona, Georgia and New Hampshire, where incumbents are seeking re-election this year, an operative briefed on early strategy talks told Axios.

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