Apr 22, 2022 - Politics & Policy

Reporters say "we have a lot more on tape" after releasing McCarthy audio

House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) arrives for his weekly news conference in the U.S. Capitol Visitors Center on March 18, 2022

House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy arrives for a news conference on March 18. Photo: Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images

Two New York Times reporters say that they "have a lot more" on tape after releasing audio of House Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) saying he planned to urge President Trump to resign over the Jan. 6 riot.

Driving the news: "We have a lot more on tape from this period, which is at the highest levels of American politics. It is sensitive, it's delicate, and it's high-stakes, and we have it all on tape," the New York Times' Jonathan Martin told MSNBC's Rachel Maddow.

  • "I think it's going to tell a very different story about this period than the story that many people are trying to tell right now," Martin said.
  • McCarthy on Thursday denied the account, with a spokesperson saying, "McCarthy never said he'd call Trump to say he should resign."
  • The reporters, Martin and Alex Burns, are set to publish a book, '"This Will Not Pass," out May 3.

The big picture: McCarthy, a Trump loyalist, has said he sees an "opportunity" to become speaker of the House if Republicans retake the chamber in the midterm elections.

  • But if Trump turned on him, McCarthy's path could be imperiled by the former president's loyalists in the GOP caucus, Axios' Mike Allen reports.

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