Dec 3, 2021 - Podcasts

Trump’s "Remain in Mexico" policy is back

The Biden administration has reached a deal with Mexico to restart the Trump-era “Remain in Mexico” program, also known as the Migrant Protection Protocol at the border. Starting Monday, asylum seekers will once again have to wait outside the U.S. while their claims are processed.

  • Plus, Mike Allen wraps up the week in politics.
  • And, the new trend of IV treatments at spas.

Guests: Axios' Stef Kight, Mike Allen and Jennifer Kingson.

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NIALA BOODHOO: Good morning! Welcome to Axios Today!

It’s Friday, December 3rd. I’m Niala Boodhoo.

Here’s what we’re watching today: the tally of Democrats retiring from the House keeps climbing. Plus, the new trend of IV treatments - at spas.

But first, today’s One Big Thing: Trump’s Remain in Mexico back.

The Biden administration has reached a deal with Mexico to restart former President Trump's “Remain in Mexico” program, also known as the Migrant Protection Protocol at the border. Starting this Monday, asylum-seekers will once again have to wait outside the U.S. while their claims are being processed.

Stef Kite covers politics and immigration for Axios, and is here with the latest. Stef, this was a controversial program when President Trump started it, why has President Biden reinstated it?

STEF KIGHT: The short answer is that the courts are forcing the administration to restart this. There was a lawsuit over the way that they ended “Remain in Mexico” earlier this year. And the result was that they're now forced, the administration is forced to restart this program. At the same time, the Biden administration has been working at trying to end the program the right way. So it was one of those tricky situations where the way that they tried to end the program wasn't correct. So they are trying again, they're pursuing other ways of correctly ending “Remain in Mexico,” but they've also been working to restart it at the same time and trying to make it a little bit better for migrants.

NIALA: And when the program restarts, will it be the same as it was before? Or will there be changes?

STEF: There are a few changes to the program this time around and those changes were notably requested from Mexico. So one thing in all of this is that the U.S. can restart the policy, but really is very dependent on Mexico to agree to cooperate and hosting the asylum-seekers on its soil. So Mexico has really been the one asking for a lot of changes to the program to make it more humanitarian.

So for example, this time around migrants will be offered the coronavirus vaccine before they're returned to Mexico. U.S. officials are also going to try to complete all of the asylum cases within 180 days, asylum cases that are in MPP. They are also lowering the bar for migrants who claim fear of persecution in Mexico to make it easier so that if there are migrants who think they could be at risk by being returned to Mexico, they may not be put into the program.

NIALA: President Biden campaigned against President Trump's immigration policies generally, but how many aspects of Trump's immigration policies has President Biden continued?

STEF: You know, there are two big ones that come to mind, the first of which is Title 42 which is a COVID-related policy that allows border officials to quickly expel families and singles back to Mexico. It provides even more power to immigration officials to quickly return people to Mexico. And then the second one is this “Remain in Mexico” policy. It really was a very controversial and well-known policy. It was something that Biden specifically said that he intended to end and something the administration did end and did work on processes for bringing people back into the U.S. who were impacted from MPP the last time. And now they're being forced to restart it again.

NIALA: Axios’ Stef Kight. Thanks Stef.

STEF: Thanks, Niala.

NIALA: In 15 seconds, Mike Allen joins me to wrap up our week in politics.

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NIALA: Welcome back to Axios Today. I'm Niala Boodhoo. The 19th Democrat in Washington announced retirement plans this week. Meanwhile, some big changes and Vice President Harris' office just a few of the headlines as we're wrapping up this week in politics as we do Fridays. Today with Mike Allen, author of Axios AM and PM newsletters. Good morning.

MIKE ALLEN: Good morning, Niala.

NIALA: Let's start with the shakeup in staff at Vice President Harris' office. Can you tell us what's going on here?

MIKE: Yeah. So Symone Sanders who's one of Vice President Harris’ best known aides is leaving and why this matters Niala is that Symone's is pretty well known. She was the national press secretary for Senator Bernie Sanders campaign, no relation uh, but she was kind of a celebrity operative and is one of the most visible and powerful aides to Vice President Harris, the person you'll most often see you at the vice president’s side when she's in public. The reason this is getting so much attention, is there’s tons of worry among Democrats about dysfunction and drama in the vice president's office. So a lot of times the vice president just tries not to be seen, and doesn't want to take the spotlight of the president. And so staff drama is the last thing that you want attention to, but because she's the most obvious and the next in line to be the democratic nominee, whether that's in four years or eight years, or whenever that is, she gets outsized attention. And that's why a staff departure like this makes people say “hmm, what's going on there.”

NIALA: Also Democrats leaving Washington include Peter DeFazio, a democratic representative from Oregon, the 19th representative from the house to say, “not running for reelection in 2022.” Do all of these resignations pave the way for Republicans to win back the house?

MIKE: Well, they more reflect the fact that both Democrats and Republicans think the Republicans are going to win the house, right? Any lawmaker on Capitol Hill, either party will tell you that one thing is for sure it is better to be Mr. or Mme. Chair then to just be a member, it is better to be in the majority than the minority. It makes a massive difference: attention, politics, goodies, power. Like all of that comes from being the majority party. So it's kind of a leading indicator of the fact that a lot of these Democrats think that if they spare around, if they run for reelection again, they're going to be in the minority. Not as fun.

NIALA: Mike, I can’t let you go without talking about President Biden's announcements yesterday, his COVID winter plan. Especially now that we have to factor the omicron variant into that. What do we need to know about what he said yesterday?

MIKE: So we saw additional restrictions on people flying in the United States and then President Biden saying, “I'm on your side.” He's saying that for people who have private or insurance, he wants to get reimbursement for in-home COVID tests as a way of reducing that burden and encouraging test use. Now why this matters is {resident Biden wants to show that he is acting. Like clearly this virus has a mind of its own. So what can the president do? He can show that he's prepared and he's trying to get ahead of it and all these steps are an effort to do that.

NIALA: Axios’ co-founder Mike Allen. Thanks Mike.

MIKE: Well, thank you. Niala and I have a scoop for your listeners Saturday - Niala happy birthday.

NIALA: Thanks Mike.

OK to end the week we’re going to tell you about one unusual trend that Axios’ Jennifer Kingson brought to us…

If you're hooked up to an IV, that's usually bad news and means you're sick and in the hospital, but turns out now you can get an IV with nutrients and vitamins at your local spa, or even at the mall as a wellness treatment.

Jennifer, how and why did IVs become popular as a spa treatment?

JENNIFER KINGSON: This is one of the stranger trends I've seen in terms of the whole wellness movement. In the 1970s, there was a doctor named John Myers who popularized an IV drip called the Myers cocktail, which included electrolytes, vitamin B12, and other nutrients. There's been a revival of interest in IVF therapy, and it's become popular in places like New York and LA where trendy wellness spas exist. Now it's also permeated to the heartland. So you'll find them in malls across the US.

NIALA: And they, if these establishment are in a shopping mall, is that safe?

JENNIFER: As with any slightly eyebrow raising treatments, it may not always be the case that the person who's jabbing your arm with an IV has the sufficient medical training to do it properly. Doctors say that this kind of therapy doesn't seem harmful to them because it's basically the same as drinking a Gatorade. You're getting replenishment through vitamin water. They just say that there's no need to bypass your stomach to do this.

NIALA: Axios’ Jennifer Kingson. Thanks, Jennifer.

JENNIFER: Thanks, Niala

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I’m Niala Boodhoo - thanks for listening - and have the best weekend.

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