David Axelrod and Mike Murphy launch politics podcast

Two of the great living campaign talkers, David Axelrod and Mike Murphy, team up for a "Hacks on Tap" podcast from Cadence13, taking listeners "deep inside the top level of American politics."

What to expect: The vibe is a bar full of campaign reporters, where one can pull up a stool to listen to two guys who have been in it, but now aren't tied to cable news cycles.

• Murphy told me the two have been real friends for a long time.
• The pod began as long phone conversations, between his base in LA. and Axe's in Chicago.

"It's fairly serious conversation by people who know something," Murphy said.

Go deeper: Hear the trailer and subscribe here.