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Dan and Axios' Miriam Kramer dig into President Trump's directive that NASA must return astronauts to the moon's surface by 2024. Plus, they discuss today's first-ever photo of a black hole.

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Podcast: America's return to the moon

Trump wants Americans back on the lunar surface by 2024. But it's not going to be easy.

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