The D.C. besties who host a true crime podcast

When Michelai Graham, 28, and Amanda Washington, 29, first met in 2017 as part of an American University graduate program, they didn't think they'd like each other.

• “The first memory I really have of Michelai, specifically, is remembering her talking sh-t about people wearing makeup all the time,” Washington says.
• “She was like, I'm a flexitarian, and I was like, girl, please,” Graham adds.

Yes, but: As their time in the program wore on, they realized they had a lot in common, including their mutual obsession with true crime. They now host a podcast about true crime in D.C. called The Point of No Return.

How they became besties: Their podcast has made them business partners and strengthened their friendship.

• “We're more careful and attentive about our friendship because … if we fall out, we're still [producing] this podcast,” Graham says. “In turn, we're able to bring so much more to the podcast because we were best friends first.”

Their bestie advice: Loosen up and be willing to try something new, says Graham, who had no prior podcast experience. She's a planner, but Washington encourages her to try new things on the fly.

• It's about being “comfortable with being uncomfortable,” Washington says.

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